Go Back to Home

Who Am I To Say Anything?

I used to be a very deeply conspiratorial person, enveloped in the most outrageous fringe beliefs. Over time, I've challenged my own beliefs, and looked at the opposition to see what they have to say about flat earth being false. And using my own brain, I've thought about everything from my own perspective. Ultimately, the conspiracy theorists have the weakest logical footholds and the most emotional arguments, a clear sign of wanting to defend your ego and feeling special. I've seen it all, I've heard it all, I know it all.

You watch any video of conspiracy theorists debating scientists, and you will see the scientists calmly and rationally dismantle every single conspiracy theory with ease. Yet the conspiracy theorists will still cling to their beliefs, refusing to accept reality. This is because they are emotionally invested in their beliefs, and they want to feel special and unique. They want to believe that they have access to secret knowledge that the rest of the world doesn't. But in reality, they are just deluding themselves. They completely ignore anything the scientists and experts say (I'm guilty of this too). The sane, rational person will say something that explains or disproves their conspiracy, and the only thing the conspirator says is 'nuh uh.' A complete lack of accepting defeat or superior evidence.

Conspiracies don't work on logic, they work on emotion and FLAWED logic. I made this page to provide a store for anyone who wants to see the logical and evidential flaws in these theories, whether you're on the fence, a die-hard theorist, or just someone who wants to make fun of the conspirators. I've tried my best to make this list as accessible as possible (since most conspirators don't believe any complex words or phenomena, even if they're well documented, and demonstrate low brain power, so I had to make sure their tiny brains can understand it). Enjoy.


Ground Rules

There's a lot of inconsistencies in how conspiracy theorists argue, so I'm going to make some things very clear here:

  • There is no way the government is paying every shmuck and joe to lie to you. Every government in the world is in severe debt and has no money to pay 90% of the population to lie to you. It's also really fun how you choose who's credible: Mr. Random Schizo man on Rumble versus a dude who spent 40 years of his life doing independent research and verifying others' claims.
  • Just because something is written down doesn't mean it's true. That goes for Hindu scripture, tablets, the Bible, everything. We distinguish between history and literature because stories are written in such a different way than historical accounts. That also doesn't mean we completely throw literature out the window: Homer's Odyssey was based on real historical events, but morphed into an entertaining story format with many fictional elements. And do not argue that people back then would never 'waste valuable paper' on pursuing the arts: cavemen literally drew on walls for no survival value, it was worthless. People have been expressing creativity since the dawn of time; resources were never a reason not to write for fun. I mean imagine if I was a dude from 500 CE, and I wrote down 'this king named Leotard lived to be 1000 years old,' would you believe me just because I wrote it down? It's clearly a joke or a fable.


    • Debunking Flat Earth

    Infinite Earth Theories

    Some flerfers like to think the Earth is infinite, that it goes out forever. But at the same time they call the 'firmament' a dome. A dome is a finite boundary, not an infinite one. It is mathematically impossible to have an infinite DOME on a flat surface that extends forever. One example of the severe mathematical ineptitude commonly seen in flat earthers.

    The Sun is not the same size as the Moon

    The Sun goes behind the Moon during a solar eclipse, meaning the Sun is bigger than the Moon. Seeing as how the Sun and Moon's apparent sizes during totality are basically the same, the Sun HAS to be bigger. And it is. It is LEAGUES bigger than flerfers claim.

    Schools did not teach Flat Earth

  • Geocentrism was disproven in 1600 CE
  • Flat Earth was disproven in 500 BCE

    • Early geocentrist astronomers used heavily complicated maps to make up for their error in thinking the Sun goes around the Earth. Normal, real maps are way easier to use in finding out the path of planets.

    This is how we are able to predict solar eclipses hundreds of years into the future with precision down to the second. We use the REAL world model, a ROUND Earth.

    The Romans knew, the Greeks knew, even Jesus probably knew. You're the odd one out if you think it's flat.

    The stars

    Stellar Parallax

    Stellar parallax is a well-documented phenomenon, but it's so minor because the stars are so far that we can't detect any change with the naked eye. Claiming that there's no parallax in stars is a fool's mistake, a completely false statement. The Greeks used this same argument against heliocentrism.

    Constellation Differences

    Every half a year, the constellations we see in the sky are different, which shouldn't happen on a Flat Earth, ever. This makes sense on a round Earth because we move to the other side of the sun, obscuring the other side of the sky while the night sky becomes a different half.

    Constellation Rotations

    In the Northern Hemisphere, constellations in the sky turn clockwise over the period of a day. But in the Southern Hemisphere, constellations turn counter-clockwise. This would NEVER work on a Flat Earth, stationary or not.

    Hemisphere Differences

    If I'm in the Southern Hemisphere, why can't I see Northern Hemisphere constellations? The Polaris of the South is the Southern Cross. You CANNOT see the North Star from the South, which makes 0 sense on a Flat Earth.

    If I'm looking South on a Flat Earth, it means I'm looking outwards towards the 'ice wall.' How is it possible that someone on the other side of the Flat Earth sees the same constellations as me looking in an opposite direction? Clearly impossible, and a massive disproof of Flat Earth.

    We can see farther than normal because light bends when traveling through the atmosphere. This is known as atmospheric refraction. This happens because the air gets lighter as you go higher, and, when light moves from a denser medium to a lighter one, light bends towards the denser medium, A.K.A. the Earth.

    For what reason would EVERY government in the world be "hiding land"? The entire premise of America was to expand to the West, to TAKE OVER more land. If the Earth were flat and had more land, EVERY country in the world would be fighting to expand. So many wars in history have been over land. Hitler wanted more land. Russia wanted Ukraine's land. Britain wanted land. Napoleon wanted land. IF THERE WAS MORE LAND, IT WOULD NOT BE A SECRET.

    Debunking Moon Landing Suspicions

    We haven't been to the moon so often

    Why would we? NASA's funding was severely boosted during the Cold War, and deeply cut afterwards. They literally cannot afford expensive flights every month. If it was faked, it should be so easy to just keep everyone entertained by making fake videos all the time. But they don't. This isn't the behavior of a liar.

    You can / cant see stars in space

    Astronauts give different answers

    The astronauts have to wear highly protective face shields on their suits, which makes it difficult to see the stars. Some of them might've been able to see stars, others nothing.

    You cant see stars in the moon landing video

    The exposure of the camera had to be tuned in such a way that you can't see the stars in the sky. This is basic camera knowledge that even you should know. The moon has no atmosphere, so the amount of light reflecting off it's surface is astronomically high to where the camera's exposure must be tuned way down, otherwise the video would be a flashbang.

    Neil Armstrong wont swear on the Bible

    Neil isn't compelled to swear on the Bible that he went to the moon. He's not even religious. He doesn't need to spend five seconds doing a meaningless act to 'prove' he did it. People like you will still think he's lying. It makes his act worthless no matter what decision he made.

    NASA Photography

    Invalid continent proportions and color differences

    The photos of Earth are taken with a variety of cameras. If you ever used a camera, you know they take in light differently, and it will change how the final picture is. Simply look at old photos even ON Earth; their colors are far weirder than what we have today. You cannot claim the photos are fake because of a color difference in 1997 to 2016, that would be idiotic.

    Galactic colors

    Some photographs of space are indeed colored afterwards for the populace to enjoy, but that doesn't mean they're fake. That's like saying the person in a photoshopped image never existed; their colors are misconstrued but that doesn't mean the existence of the subject is completely invalidated.

    Rocket Takeoffs Are Not Fake

    Why do rockets fly off to the side

    Rockets fly off to the side to let the Earth's rotation boost them, saving fuel. It's like a slingshot. You don't push a ball when you throw it; you SWING it, same with rockets.

    General

    Government secrets

    Governments can barely hold any secrets. Government secrets are so easily leaked, especially in a free country like the USA.

    People were scared of government surveillance after 9/11 BECAUSE a government agent named Snowden leaked government files detailing the NSA's surveillance methods.

    Ellsberg leaked Pentagon papers detailing how the government was misconstruing the Vietnam War as a series of American victories.

    President Nixon destroyed evidence, silenced witnesses, and obstructed investigations, but even that didn't stop the world from finding out that he'd been behind the Watergate break-ins.

    It is so hard for the government to hide any secrets, do you really think something as big as the shape of the world or the moon landing could be faked and kept secret? Even when history demolishes your bullshit beliefs?

    NASA said gravity will stop working for 7 seconds

    NASA never said this. This is complete falsehood spread by random girls on TikTok.